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David Hears of Saul's Death

1 After the death of Saul, David returned from defeating the Amalekites and stayed in Ziklag two days.

2 On the third day a man arrived from Saul's camp, with his clothes torn and with dust on his head. When he came to David, he fell to the ground to pay him honor.

3 "Where have you come from?" David asked him. He answered, "I have escaped from the Israelite camp."

4 "What happened?" David asked. "Tell me." He said, "The men fled from the battle. Many of them fell and died. And Saul and his son Jonathan are dead."

5 Then David said to the young man who brought him the report, "How do you know that Saul and his son Jonathan are dead?"

6 "I happened to be on Mount Gilboa," the young man said, "and there was Saul, leaning on his spear, with the chariots and riders almost upon him.

7 When he turned around and saw me, he called out to me, and I said, 'What can I do?'

8 "He asked me, 'Who are you?' " 'An Amalekite,' I answered.

9 "Then he said to me, 'Stand over me and kill me! I am in the throes of death, but I'm still alive.'

10 "So I stood over him and killed him, because I knew that after he had fallen he could not survive. And I took the crown that was on his head and the band on his arm and have brought them here to my lord."

11 Then David and all the men with him took hold of their clothes and tore them.

12 They mourned and wept and fasted till evening for Saul and his son Jonathan, and for the army of the LORD and the house of Israel, because they had fallen by the sword.

13 David said to the young man who brought him the report, "Where are you from?"
"I am the son of an alien, an Amalekite," he answered.

14 David asked him, "Why were you not afraid to lift your hand to destroy the LORD's anointed?"

15 Then David called one of his men and said, "Go, strike him down!" So he struck him down, and he died.

16 For David had said to him, "Your blood be on your own head. Your own mouth testified against you when you said, 'I killed the LORD's anointed.' "

Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth... Proverbs 24:17

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.



1 Men from Ziph came to Saul in Gibeah, reporting that David was hiding on the hill of Hachilah at the edge of the wasteland.

2 So Saul went off down to the desert of Ziph with three thousand picked men of Israel, to search for David in the desert of Ziph.

3 Saul camped beside the road on the hill of Hachilah, at the edge of the wasteland. David, who was living in the desert, saw that Saul had come into the desert after him

4 and sent out scouts, who confirmed Saul's arrival.

5 David himself then went to the place where Saul was encamped and examined the spot where Saul and Abner, son of Ner, the general, had their sleeping quarters. Saul's were within the barricade, and all his soldiers were camped around him.

6 David asked Ahimelech the Hittite, and Abishai, son of Zeruiah and brother of Joab, "Who will go down into the camp with me to Saul?" Abishai replied, "I will."

7 So David and Abishai went among Saul's soldiers by night and found Saul lying asleep within the barricade, with his spear thrust into the ground at his head and Abner and his men sleeping around him.

8 Abishai whispered to David: "God has delivered your enemy into your grasp this day. Let me nail him to the ground with one thrust of the spear; I will not need a second thrust!"

9 But David said to Abishai, "Do not harm him, for who can lay hands on the LORD'S anointed and remain unpunished?

10 As the LORD lives," David continued, "it must be the LORD himself who will strike him, whether the time comes for him to die, or he goes out and perishes in battle.

11 But the LORD forbid that I touch his anointed! Now take the spear which is at his head and the water jug, and let us be on our way."

12 So David took the spear and the water jug from their place at Saul's head, and they got away without anyone's seeing or knowing or awakening. All remained asleep, because the LORD had put them into a deep slumber.

13 Going across to an opposite slope, David stood on a remote hilltop at a great distance from Abner, son of Ner, and the troops.

14 He then shouted, "Will you not answer, Abner?" And Abner answered, "Who is it that calls me?"

15 David said to Abner: "Are you not a man whose like does not exist in Israel? Why, then, have you not guarded your lord the king when one of his subjects went to kill the king, your lord?

16 This is no creditable service you have performed. As the LORD lives, you people deserve death because you have not guarded your lord, the LORD'S anointed. Go, look: where are the king's spear and the water jug that was at his head?"

17 Saul recognized David's voice and asked, "Is that your voice, my son David?" David answered, "Yes, my lord the king."

18 He continued: "Why does my lord pursue his servant? What have I done? What evil do I plan?

19 Please, now, let my lord the king listen to the words of his servant. If the LORD has incited you against me, let an offering appease him; but if men, may they be cursed before the LORD, because they have exiled me so that this day I have no share in the LORD'S inheritance, but am told: 'Go serve other gods!'

20 Do not let my blood flow to the ground far from the presence of the LORD. For the king of Israel has come out to seek a single flea as if he were hunting partridge in the mountains."

21 Then Saul said: "I have done wrong. Come back, my son David, I will not harm you again, because you have held my life precious today. Indeed, I have been a fool and have made a serious mistake."

22 But David answered: "Here is the king's spear. Let an attendant come over to get it.

23 The LORD will reward each man for his justice and faithfulness. Today, though the LORD delivered you into my grasp, I would not harm the LORD'S anointed.

24 As I valued your life highly today, so may the LORD value my life highly and deliver me from all difficulties."

25 Then Saul said to David: "Blessed are you, my son David! You shall certainly succeed in whatever you undertake." David went his way, and Saul returned to his home.


America spoke clearly and we as a people want change and ethics in our leaders. Quite frankly the last 4 years since 9/11 have been traumatic and quite clearly a wilderness experience for our country and I think we are regaining a balance in our country from decades of wounds and battles internally. However I will still maintain that the problem in America is GENERATIONAL and very little will substantively change until the baby boomers leave power. The young people rising up in my generation and especially the younger generation in the late teens and early twenties are the most compassionate, caring and ethical folks in America and are friends of the world. The only thing that concerns me with our youth is that we have little knowledge of history. It is one thing to not have knowledge it is another to not want to have that knowledge. Time will tell but it is a new season in America and for the world.

The Most High rules in the kingdom of men, gives it to whomever He will, and sets over it the lowest of men" (Daniel 4:17).

Come near ye nations to hear; and hearken, ye people...let the earth hear, and all that is therein: the world and all things that come forth of it for the indignation of the Lord is upon ALL nations, and His fury upon all their armies Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance:
behold, He taketh up the isles as a very little thing.....

ALL nations before Him are as nothing: and they are counted to Him less than nothing, and vanity it is He that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers. [It is He] that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in... That bringeth the princes to nothing... He maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.....and He shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble.



Good article from my hometown newspaper the Missoulian



Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore, the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

—Exodus 20: 8-11

The Lord said to Moses on Mount Sinai, "Say to the people of Israel, 'When you come into the land which I give you, the land shall keep a Sabbath to the Lord. Six years you shall sow your field, and six years you shall prune your vineyard, and gather in its fruits, but in the seventh year there shall be a sabbath of solemn rest for the land, a sabbath to the Lord; you shall not sow your field or prune your vineyard.'"

—Leviticus 25: 1-5

And after he had dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray.

—Matthew 14:23

And in the morning, a great while before day, he rose and went out to a lonely place, and there he prayed,

—Mark 1:35

But so much more the report went abroad concerning him; and great multitudes gathered to hear and to be healed of their infirmities. But he withdrew to the wilderness and prayed.

—Luke 5:15-16

In these days he went out to the mountain to pray; and all night he continued in prayer to God.

—Luke 6:12


Washington, November 15, 1862

The President, Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, desires and enjoins the orderly observance of the Sabbath by the officers and men in the military and naval service. The importance for men and beast of the prescribed weekly rest, the sacred rights of Christian soldiers and sailors, a becoming deference to the best sentiment of a Christian people, and a due regard for the divine will demand that Sunday labor in the Army and Navy be reduced to the measure of strict necessity.

The discipline and character of the national forces should not suffer nor the cause they defend be imperiled by the profanation of the day or name of the Most High. At this time of public distress, adopting the words of Washington in 1776, men may find enough to do in the service of God and their country without abandoning themselves to vice and immorality. The first general order issued by the Father of his Country after the Declaration of Independence indicates the spirit in which our institutions were founded and should ever be defended:

The General hopes and trusts that every officer and man will endeavor to live and act as becomes a Christian soldier defending the dearest rights and liberties of his country.



George Washington's original General Orders:

February 26, 1776

All Officers, non-commissioned Officers and Soldiers are positively forbid[den from] playing at Cards, and other Games of Chance. At this time of public distress, men may find enough to do in the service of God and their country without abandoning themselves to vice and immorality.
July 9, 1776

The Hon. Continental Congress having been pleased to allow a Chaplain to each Regiment, with the pay of Thirty-three Dollars and one third per month. The Colonels or commanding officers of each regiment are directed to procure Chaplains accordingly; persons of good Characters and exemplary lives to see that all inferior officers and soldiers pay them a suitable respect and attend carefully upon religious exercises. The blessing and protection of Heaven are at all times necessary but especially so in times of public distress and danger. The General hopes and trusts that every officer and man will endeavor to live and act as becomes a Christian soldier defending the dearest rights and liberties of his country.

[Source: The Writings of George Washington, John C. Fitzpatrick, editor (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1931), Vol. 4, p. 347, February 26, 1776 Order; and Writings (1932), Vol. 5, pp. 244-245, July 9, 1776 Order.]


A little boy asked his mother, "Why are you crying?" "Because I'm a woman," she told him. "I don't understand," he said. His Mom just hugged him and said, "And you never will." Later the little boy asked his father, "Why does mother seem to cry for no reason?" "All women cry for no reason," was all his dad could say. The little boy grew up and became a man, still wondering why women cry. Finally he put in a call to God. When God got on the phone, he asked, "God, why do women cry so easily?" God said: "When I made the woman she had to be special. I made her shoulders strong enough to carry the weight of the world, yet gentle enough to give comfort I gave her an inner strength to endure childbirth and the rejection that many times comes from her children. I gave her a hardness that allows her to keep going when everyone else gives up, and take care of her family through sickness and fatigue with out complaining. I gave her the sensitivity to love her children under any and all circumstances, even when her child has hurt her very badly. I gave her strength to carry her husband through his faults and fashioned her from his rib to protect his heart. I gave her wisdom to know that a good husband never hurts his wife, but sometimes tests her strengths and her resolve to stand beside him unfalteringly. And finally, I gave her a tear to shed. This is hers exclusively to use whenever it is needed." "You see my son," said God, "the beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman must be seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart - the place where love resides."


For attractive lips, speak words of kindness.
For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people.
For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry.
For beautiful hair, let a child run his fingers through it once a day.
For poise, walk with the knowledge you'll never walk alone...
People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed ... Never throw out anybody.
Remember, if you ever need a helping hand, you'll find one at the end of your arm.
As you grow older you will discover that you have two hands.
One for helping yourself, the other for helping others.


I am heartbroke with the school shootings in our country and the scandal of those in leadership in our nation's Congress in America, and the continued oppression of orphans and the young in our nation and the world. It is a grief for my young brothers and sisters that reminds me that I move forward on my knees.

Additionally I get more and more upset that with all that is going on against the children of America, a story comes out about an abusive principal who attempted to "order" a child to stop reading her Bible in Maryland. Our children need all the spiritual protection they can get and this principal, if this is true, should be FIRED immediately. If it is not true a clarification and apology should be issued to this girl immediately.

According to the Washington Post a vice principal at Dwight D. Eisenhower Middle School in Laurel last month ordered Amber, then 12, to stop reading the Bible on her school breaks or face punishment. Read about it here.

As I have stated before in this blog one of the world's most selfish and corrupt generations to walk this planet, BABY BOOMERS, continue to "lead" the free world and the children of my generation and the next generation of children will continue to pay for their parents sins in the abuse, war, abortions, in broken homes, in debt, and in corruption. It has to stop.

I ask Christians around the world to pray for the children of America remembering these verses.

"In you the fatherless find mercy." (Hosea 14:4)

"You are the helpers of the fatherless." (Psalm 10:14)

"It is not the will of your Father that one of these little ones should perish." (Matthew 18:14)

"Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress." (James 1:27)

"Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these." (Luke 18:16)

"I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you." (John 14:18)

"Whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me." (Matthew 18:5)

"And Jesus took the children in his arms, put his hands on them, and blessed them." (Mark 10:16)

"Remember those...who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering." (Hebrews 13:3)

"This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us...let us not love with word or tongue, but with action and in truth." (I John 3:16-18)

"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in." (Matthew 25:35)

"Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves...defend the rights of the needy." (Proverbs 31:8,9)

"He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me, declares the Lord." (Jeremiah 22:16)

Lord who will rise up and defend the children?


I have a lot on my mind with the wars as we all do. It is better to study history to understand the present. Much of the present seems as madness in the world today. Reference this article about world war.

Several American leaders and elder statesman including Newt Gingrich have come out recently and stated very clearly the world is currently embroiled in a world war. When and how our government declares this does not matter because the rest of the world sees this or experiences the effects of this war already in different forms.

Mr. Gingrich lists wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, this week's bomb attacks in India, North Korean nuclear threats, terrorist arrests and investigations in Florida, Canada and Britain, and violence in Israel and Lebanon as evidence of World War III.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair states this week in California that "the conflict in the Middle East, as well as others involving Muslim extremists, revolve around modernization within Islam and whether the Western system of values can beat theirs.

"If we recognize this struggle for what it truly is, we would be at least along the first steps of the path to winning it. But I fear a vast part of Western opinion is not remotely near this yet." It has become obvious to nations and observers around the world there is a clash of two visions of the world and the future of mankind. Western values & "democracy" and the Muslim world.

So what is a world war? If, (as one online definition) it is stated that a world war is a military conflict affecting the majority of the world's countries then... World wars usually span multiple continents, and are very bloody and destructive, they have alliances, span continents and lead to a great number of deaths. Again, the question must be asked when does a global conflict reach that point?

So without quoting them all, clearly the leadership of several Muslim nations and terrorist organizations are calling this conflict in the middle east a global holy war, some leaders in the USA acknowledging an impending world war, and from all of this and what we currently see, it is obvious to see why Iraq is such an important battleground for America.

What if Iraq turned into a graveyard of secular democracy similar to Afghanistan in the past becoming the graveyard of Communism? This is what many have said in the Muslim world, and have predicted. How would the west look, and how would the world change? What if the Middle East embraced democracy? Would long standing peace and rule of law prevail? What law? How would the world look, how would these nations look? What is the end result, the bottom line product?

For many in the west we ask and do not understand, why would you be willing to die to fight for these ideas to commit suicide for your values?

Why the hate for democracy? Is secular democracy unbelief? Is it rebellion to God? Does this form of humanism persuade man to charge his destiny to shape collective masses into law? Contrast this with the "unalterable law" of God or the Islamic Shariah.

If democracy causes you to love this world, live for this world and forget the next world then you will abandon jihad. It leads to economic prosperity that focuses you on this life, sure to make any man reluctant to die in martyrdom in defence of faith.

Do you lose the soul of Islam if you become democratic? What is the Qur'an position?

Can I even believe my nation or average Americans will care about these questions?

If a world war was declared what would this mean for the average muslim child, the average american child?

Approximately 62 million lost their lives in the last world war.

I could give a damn about the politicians, though I am exhorted in Scripture to pray for my leaders and I do. But there are very true leaders today. So we can see how easy it is for the sheep to follow the stronger and polarizing figures of our respective religions.

So truly then there is a battle of ideas that is so contrasting I do not seeing any conclusion of the matter in any near future. Christians and Muslims will really have to look each other in the eye and figure out why they fight to resolve these issues for the sake of future generations. The problem is forums for these type of resolutions are hard to find. In the end war is easier but it is also so much harder.


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